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118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 16:02:42–16:03:33 · 0:43 of audio

Operations reported stopping with the hose at the edge of the boning section, putting tea pieces in a branch and planning to pressurise it.

5310690
16:02:42
3.5s

Operations from Alpha Sector GRN.
5310679
16:02:47
1.2s

Send over
5310690
16:02:49
2.5s

Yeah, just so you're aware.
5310690
16:02:53
6.0s

I've made their way down to the edge of the boning section.
5310690
16:03:01
9.7s

A bit of an escarpment, and we've stopped with the hose there, we're just putting tea pieces in as we currently speak in a branch, and we'll get it pressurised over.
5310679
16:03:11
4.4s

Yeah, roger, I remember the little, you can go left or right of it to get it right.
5310690
16:03:18
10.0s

Yeah, roger, and further left or right, we can continue down if you'd like, below there is walk to walls and stairs if you would like us to continue through, over.
5310679
16:03:28
5.3s

Yeah, I'm just back under the pile, I'm just getting eyes on you, I'll just grab some binoculars.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:58:50–15:59:14 · 0:18 of audio

5310690
15:58:50
3.7s

Yeah, IC from Alpha Sector.
5310659
15:58:55
2.1s

Receiving, send.
5310690
15:58:58
2.8s

Yeah, just wondering your location, mate.
5310659
15:59:04
7.0s

I'm only just 100 metres down the hill from where I left off you, I can wander back up, over.
5310690
15:59:12
2.3s

Yeah, sounds good, mate. See you soon.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:56:26–15:57:36 · 0:34 of audio

Athelstone 14 reported receiving a QRV, while Two Light Fleet confirmed approaching from Maws Road.

5310464
15:56:26
1.9s

Yeah, Zulu Ops.
5310464
15:56:39
2.5s

Stirling Barky Ops
5310464
15:56:59
3.2s

Athelstone 14 Ops.
5213555
15:57:06
3.5s

Athelstone 14 receiving.
5310464
15:57:10
8.2s

Yeah, g'day Athelstone, just letting you know, Two Light Fleet coming down, centre track, we'll bump into you shortly. tentative
5213555
15:57:20
4.8s

Roger that, I have eyes on the QRV coming up behind us.
5310464
15:57:25
7.7s

Nah, negative, we're coming in from Maws Road, so we'll be coming the other direction, we'll keep an eye out for the QRV as well.
5213555
15:57:34
2.5s

Roger that.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:54:04–15:55:55 · 1:09 of audio

Zulie sector crew reported fighting through jungle terrain, confirming all good and no extra crews needed.

5310634
15:54:04
4.4s

Ignition touch from Zulie sector, over.
5310464
15:54:10
1.5s

Yeah, go ahead.
5310671
15:54:13
3.2s

Yeah, Richard Brenton, over.
5310634
15:54:18
3.9s

Yeah, guys, just checking in, how you doing, over
5310671
15:54:26
1.7s

(no speech recognised)
5310671
15:54:29
13.6s

Just made it to the bottom of the second run. It's just quite jungly in here, so just fighting my way through. About to make another run back up to where you were last or you last over.
5310634
15:54:44
5.5s

Yeah, copy mate, all good, just keep tracking on, as you are.
5310671
15:54:54
3.0s

Roger, understood, rule 2
5310690
15:55:12
2.5s

Yeah, zero leave from, hamper
5310634
15:55:17
2.5s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310690
15:55:20
12.0s

Yeah, sorry about that. Operations put a request through for a couple of crews to come across to my sector. We're pretty good at the moment with my current resources, so you can just hold off on that.
5310634
15:55:40
5.8s

Yeah, Jacob, I didn't get that transmission, but I think I overheard you all good, over.
5310690
15:55:46
9.5s

Yeah, all good, Brenton. There was a request from operations for extra crew needed in my sector. No need. Over.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:52:38–15:53:09 · 0:17 of audio

Crew reported they haven't left sector and are in good condition from the start.

5310634
15:52:38
2.3s

Yeah, receiving.
5310690
15:52:43
1.0s

(no speech recognised)
5310690
15:52:46
2.1s

Yeah
5310690
15:52:50
5.9s

Crew haven't left sector, we're pretty good.
5310690
15:52:57
0.7s

(no speech recognised)
5310634
15:53:01
4.1s

Yeah, Jack, if I missed half the transmission, over.
5310690
15:53:06
3.4s

Yeah, we're pretty good from close at the beginning.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:43:38–15:44:16 · 0:23 of audio

Ops reported a minor incident in their sector, crews are dealing with it.

5310679
15:43:38
2.8s

Yeah, Zirli Park from Ops.
5310634
15:43:43
2.5s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310679
15:43:46
2.1s

How are you doing over
5310634
15:43:56
3.0s

Yeah, Ops, receiving send.
5310679
15:43:59
3.9s

Yeah, just checking in, see how things are going on your sector.
5310634
15:44:06
6.2s

Yeah, sounds like we had a little spot, crew are just dealing with that now, over.
5310679
15:44:13
2.8s

Yeah, roger, thanks Marky, Ops out.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:41:15–15:41:53 · 0:31 of audio

Piccadilly crew are still on the track; Alpha Ops advised they might help with the hose line while patrolling above.

5310679
15:41:15
1.9s

Yeah, Alpha Ops.
5310690
15:41:19
1.5s

Yeah Receiving
5310679
15:41:21
2.6s

Have you got the Piccadilly crew on your hose though
5310690
15:41:25
3.9s

No, negative, Piccadilly crew are still on the track over
5310679
15:41:30
7.5s

Yeah, we won't lock that track till late, so they might as well help you down that hose low, even if they just continue to patrol the bit above what you're putting in, over.
5310690
15:41:38
4.2s

Yeah, apologies, my fault on that one, I'll get them tasked now over
5310679
15:41:43
7.7s

Yeah, better than sitting there waiting. They might as well get in and help out, but that's our only critical operation at this point is getting that line in.
5310690
15:41:52
1.4s

Yeah, roger.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:22:04–15:23:28 · 1:03 of audio

Radio 5310679 requested firelighters to thicken the bottom corner and work parallel to the track; radio 5310634 confirmed sending one back up and others to continue working.

5310679
15:22:04
2.6s

Yeah, Zulu Ops.
5310634
15:22:09
2.5s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310679
15:22:13
12.2s

Yeah, I'm on the other side, I've got good visibility, just wondering if, I guess you've sent those firelighters back up to the top, I was just thinking you could stick an up on that bottom corner if you can actually get in there.
5310634
15:22:31
7.5s

Yeah, I'm sending one back up to the top, and so the other one can continue working in this section, over.
5310679
15:22:39
10.4s

If you can thicken up that bottom corner and from where I'm standing, even if then you come like 10, 20, just gently come around the corner and just run it up parallel to what's being lit up the track.
5310634
15:22:52
3.9s

Yeah, easy, Jake will crack on with that now, over.
5310679
15:22:57
13.6s

Yeah, roger, and I can stand here and keep an eye on it. In fact, I can see you standing on the corner. That all looks pretty good because it's not spotting into an uphill on the other side. The track's pretty much level there.
5310634
15:23:13
4.8s

Yeah, easy. Yeah, I'll get Jag to start on now. Over.
5310679
15:23:18
2.8s

Yeah, we've got bigger headaches on this side than you've got.
5310634
15:23:25
3.2s

I'm glad for that. Over.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:16:51–15:17:33 · 0:35 of audio

Eurila 34 asked for a head count on the crew's tasks; Curtis is moving down, Dennis has the most active fire, and Jo is mopping up.

5310690
15:16:51
3.9s

Yeah, Eurila 34 from Alpha Sector, Gerren.
5310676
15:16:56
1.5s

Receiving, Send
5310690
15:16:58
7.1s

I'm down at the bottom with Dodgy Comms. I just needed a bit of a head count on your crew and how they're all looking for tasks and things like that.
5310676
15:17:07
6.4s

Roger, Curtis is just about to move down, he's just getting himself sorted, so you'll have one more down over.
5310690
15:17:14
5.0s

Yeah, we're okay, this is more just around your crew and their tasks and over
5310676
15:17:21
8.9s

Yeah, currently mopping up, and then we'll move down. So Dennis has the most active fire and Jo is mopping up, so she'll be done shortly.
5310690
15:17:30
2.6s

Yeah, roger, thanks for that, nothing further.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 15:12:16–15:14:05 · 1:08 of audio

CFS 5310634 and 5310679 discussed fire operations, requesting a QRV or crew to assist Jacob, with plans to assess the situation in 10 minutes.

5310634
15:12:16
3.9s

(no speech recognised)
5310634
15:12:23
1.7s

(no speech recognised)
5310634
15:12:26
1.4s

yeah, over
5310634
15:12:31
4.4s

Yeah, mate, they've reached the corner, city on it for now, over.
5310679
15:12:36
1.5s

Yeah, that's it.
5310679
15:12:39
5.3s

No, just get the fire lires, they can have a spell and then they can start lighting back to the old fire scale.
5310634
15:12:48
1.7s

Yeah, copy.
5310679
15:12:56
11.4s

And Parky, if you reckon that it's looking pretty good there and you can spare a crew, we might just bump either a QRV or somebody around to give Jacob a hand over.
5310634
15:13:11
6.8s

Yeah, I'm open to options, you can have QRV or 14 or whatever you like, over.
5310679
15:13:19
8.9s

I think keep the 14 on the track because they can work from the track, maybe send one of those QRVs around to help out on this side.
5310634
15:13:30
2.1s

Yeah, copy.
5310679
15:13:33
4.4s

Yeah, that's only if you're comfortable, that the edge has moved in and you've got no risk of spotting.
5310634
15:13:46
5.3s

Yeah, get on it for 10 minutes, see how it looks, and then, yeah, make a decision then, over.
5310679
15:13:53
7.1s

Yeah, no rush, but in 30 minutes or something, if everything's settled, just send one around.
5310634
15:14:03
1.7s

Yeah, easy, mate.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:57:59–14:59:14 · 0:59 of audio

CFS 5310679 advised a smoke-driven fire with 130-150m edge, requesting lighting from pylon back towards fire scale.

5310690
14:57:59
3.0s

Yeah, operations from Alpha Sector.
5310679
14:58:03
1.2s

Send Jacob
5310690
14:58:04
20.4s

Yeah, just a bit of a SITREP update for you. We're still continuing our ignition down. Like you suggested, it was more smoke driven fire than wind affected. We've got maybe 130 to 150 metres of edge. It's just smoke pushing straight across the hideaway. We still happen to take it a bit easier.
5310679
14:58:26
5.7s

Roger, understood, we're about to come to your location, so I'll see you face to face surely, over.
5310690
14:58:34
3.7s

Yeah, roger, and we'll see you soon. Nothing further.
5310679
14:58:39
3.4s

Out to you, Barkie, Zulu.
5310634
14:58:45
2.3s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310679
14:58:48
2.1s

Yeah, how are you going there?
5310634
14:58:52
5.7s

Yeah, mate, we're about 50, 60 metres away from that bend, over.
5310679
14:58:58
9.8s

Awesome. I reckon you've got plenty of time. So once you get that done, we'll just sit back and watch for a bit. You can start lighting from the pylon back towards the fire scale, over.
5310634
14:59:12
1.7s

yeah roger

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:52:58–14:53:50 · 0:39 of audio

Ignition agent Sharon requested assistance exiting; CFS advised a gap was available for her to proceed.

5310670
14:52:58
3.5s

Ignition got you from ignition agent, Sharon.
5310671
14:53:03
2.1s

Receiving, send.
5310670
14:53:07
4.1s

Yeah, hey mate, I'm getting pretty close to where I'm going to have to pop out.
5310670
14:53:13
3.4s

Just leaving up to me to get out if you can, that'd be great, thanks.
5310671
14:53:19
13.8s

Roger, we're on at the turn of the vessel box heading down, oh, Brendan's got a gap for you further back, when you're in line you'll see him with the gap, over.
5310670
14:53:34
5.5s

Yeah, roger that, just confirmed, we've went all the way to that corner on the presser block, over.
5310671
14:53:43
7.1s

Yeah, on the corner with the best blocks, Brinton is standing where the opening is, over.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:41:31–14:42:01 · 0:16 of audio

Ignition agent advised to throw fuel deeper for better burn; CFS confirmed and will do.

5310670
14:41:31
2.1s

Ignition gots from ignition agent
5310671
14:41:43
1.9s

Receiving, send.
5310670
14:41:46
10.2s

Yeah, hey mate, yeah, you're just going to have to throw it in a bit deeper where there's fuel, because yeah, you're only getting like half a metre's of burn off the track and that's about it at the moment, over.
5310671
14:41:59
1.7s

Roger, will do.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:30:05–14:31:26 · 0:56 of audio

Aiden reported more connecting leaf fuel and fire backing down, requesting to close gaps. Radio 5310670 agreed and confirmed it's safe to connect the top edge.

5310671
14:30:05
2.8s

Aiden from Jake, over.
5310670
14:30:09
2.1s

Yeah, receiving send, mate.
5310671
14:30:13
19.9s

Just letting you know that further down that I've come along, we've got a lot more connecting leaf fuel, flitter fuel, I'm still just going along with those 10 metre strips and leaving a few gaps for you, but it looks like the fire is backing down nicely through these other sections, over.
5310670
14:30:35
20.2s

Yeah, roger that, mate. Yeah, happy for you to close up those gaps that you've been leaving. Yeah, it's pretty bony where I am. I'm just below where I saw you earlier. So yeah, pretty happy. As long as it doesn't all of a sudden drop off, I'll still have an escape route. Yeah, happy to connect up that whole top edge. Over.
5310671
14:30:57
8.6s

Roger, understood, I'll go back and connect up the top edge as long as it's safe to get out, over.
5310671
14:31:23
2.6s

Roger, will do, out.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:26:31–14:27:46 · 0:46 of audio

Alpha sector ops confirmed fire behaviour is good, crews spaced out spots 30 metres apart and progressing down the line.

5310464
14:26:31
2.1s

Alpha sector ops.
5310690
14:26:36
1.5s

Receiving
5310464
14:26:38
7.0s

Yeah, Jacob, just after a bit of an update, I take it ignition's going okay, fire behaviour's all good, no issues, over.
5310690
14:26:46
7.5s

Yeah, just got the thumbs up from the ignition crew, probably 30, 40 metres off the track edge, proceeding down our hose over
5310464
14:26:54
3.4s

Yeah, roger, and you're happy fire behaviour-wise, over?
5310690
14:26:59
8.7s

Yeah, fire behaviour's good, we've spaced out spots, 30 metres, at this stage, so we can always push them closer, happy so far over.
5310464
14:27:10
2.3s

(no speech recognised)
5310464
14:27:14
9.5s

Nah, that all sounds good, Jacob. I wouldn't worry about putting them any closer, but I'd just make sure you progress down the line reasonably quickly. Over.
5310690
14:27:25
1.9s

Yeah, roger, time
5310464
14:27:44
2.1s

Yeah, Fire Bird Ops

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:23:44–14:25:32 · 0:54 of audio

Zirli Wops confirmed off scene; CFS advised to stand still at hairpin and light back towards old Burnscar.

5310679
14:23:44
1.4s

Zirli Wops
5310634
14:23:47
2.3s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310634
14:24:06
2.8s

Yeah, receiving, off scene.
5310464
14:24:18
9.3s

Yeah, Zulu, leaving your location and just heading around to meet and brief the aircraft, and then I'll go back to alpha sector.
5310634
14:24:31
1.9s

Yeah, copy.
5310464
14:24:34
5.5s

Everything's looking good, parky, no spots at this stage, so just keep...
5310634
14:24:45
9.3s

Yeah, sound and ignition are about 50 metres off the start of the vessel block, but not that happy in turn, over.
5310464
14:24:55
6.8s

Roger, once you reach the hairpin, just stand still for a bit and let it burn in, over.
5310634
14:25:05
2.1s

Yeah, copy.
5310464
14:25:15
10.2s

Actually, yeah, while I've got you, Parky, once you get to the hairpin, if you can give one of the lighters a ride off, you can start lighting back towards the old Burnscar, over.
5310634
14:25:29
2.8s

Yeah, copy, sounds good.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:20:58–14:21:17 · 0:13 of audio

Zerlo reported no spots seen and confirmed receiving instructions.

5310679
14:20:58
3.0s

Zerlo, Parky, Ops.
5310634
14:21:03
2.5s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310679
14:21:07
5.8s

Yeah, I think it's all going well. I haven't seen any spots. Let me know when you get to the top of the vessel blocks over.
5310634
14:21:15
1.7s

Yeah, copy that

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:18:43–14:18:54 · 0:08 of audio

5310671
14:18:43
3.9s

Fireliner Aiden from Jake, over.
5310670
14:18:48
1.9s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310671
14:18:52
2.1s

Just regard I'll see you, ciao.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:16:35–14:18:09 · 0:36 of audio

Alpha Sector Ops asked if ignition was found; Zolot Ops confirmed ignition crew was on site and ignition fire tactics started.

5310679
14:16:35
2.6s

Alpha Sector Ops
5310690
14:16:39
1.9s

Yeah Receiving
5310679
14:16:48
2.8s

Alpha Sector, Jacob Ops
5310690
14:16:51
3.2s

Yeah, operations, Upper Sector receiving, send.
5310679
14:16:55
1.9s

Have you found ignition?
5310690
14:17:01
6.2s

Yeah, affirmative, got the ignition crew with us, just started our ignition fire tactics over.
5310679
14:17:07
1.4s

Roger.
5310679
14:17:32
1.7s

Zolot Ops
5310679
14:17:50
1.7s

Zulu Ops
5310634
14:17:53
2.3s

Yeah, receiving send.
5310679
14:17:56
7.7s

Yeah, a bit of activity above the test burn. Athelstone can probably just watch this other bit of the control line for a bit.
5310634
14:18:07
2.5s

Yeah, copy mate.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:06:14–14:07:37 · 0:56 of audio

Firebird 503 reported being on the ground on the heli, requesting send.

5310690
14:06:14
4.1s

Operations from Alpha Sector, GRN.
5310679
14:06:22
1.9s

Yeah, go ahead, Jacob.
5310690
14:06:25
5.0s

Yeah, just confirming we got to ignition crew coming our way over.
5310679
14:06:34
5.7s

Yeah, sorry, I've got a million trucks here. You're going ahead with ignition. Was that the call over?
5310690
14:06:40
4.8s

Nah, negative, I don't think I've seen my ignition crew yet, over.
5310679
14:06:46
3.5s

Yeah, well, if you can track them down and start ignition, over.
5310690
14:06:51
8.0s

Yeah, roger, out to you, ignition crew from Alpha Sector, GRN.
5310638
14:07:00
2.6s

Yeah, receiving Jacob's send.
5310690
14:07:03
7.8s

Yeah, just wondering your ETA to Top Quarter, Hovelay, Rocky Hill, Crack over
5310638
14:07:12
4.4s

Roger now, we've just parked up, we'll head towards you, over.
5310690
14:07:24
5.0s

Yeah, roger, we'll come and see you soon. Looking forward to this.
Firebird 503
14:07:34
3.2s

Firebird 503 is on the ground on the heli, Send

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 14:02:48–14:04:26 · 0:55 of audio

CFS reported burning under power lines with estimated road spreads of 20-30 metres, noting artificial burn conditions.

5310679
14:02:48
1.4s

My City Ops
5310659
14:02:52
2.3s

Receiving, Send
5310679
14:02:54
3.7s

Yeah, we'll commence ignition, you can commence.
5310679
14:02:59
0.8s

(no speech recognised)
5310679
14:03:01
2.5s

You can do the notifications over
5310659
14:03:07
3.9s

Yeah, copy, what road spreads do you have over?
5310679
14:03:14
2.6s

Yeah, probably 20 to 30 metres.
5310659
14:03:25
6.8s

Yeah, copy, assume that's backing or is that forward road spreads over?
5310679
14:03:37
3.7s

(no speech recognised)
5310679
14:03:45
3.7s

(no speech recognised)
5310679
14:03:50
10.2s

That's an estimate because we lit up under the power line and it's a bit artificial, so it did burn better there than it will in the rest of the block, over.
5310679
14:04:06
1.5s

and forward.
5310659
14:04:14
11.6s

Yeah, copy that, and yeah, it looks like it was a little bit more than one drop. Nice and further, we'll get crew underway on this aft effector side.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 13:59:00–13:59:54 · 0:39 of audio

Firebird 503 confirmed they will conduct circuits to assess boundaries and helipad location before landing.

Firebird 503
13:59:00
3.9s

Moriada Operations, Officer, Firebird 503.
5310679
13:59:06
1.4s

Yeah send that
Firebird 503
13:59:08
13.4s

After doing the inc, we are about one minute away from being overhead, and we'll just do some circuits just to get an eye on your boundaries, and then plan to be to sit down at the designated helipad.
5310679
13:59:23
5.7s

Yeah, roger, once ignition's underway, we'll come around and see you, but might be closer to 20 past.
Firebird 503
13:59:30
3.9s

Yeah, copy that, that's fine, we can see your, what I received you tested.
5310679
13:59:35
1.4s

Yeah, affirmative.
Firebird 503
13:59:42
8.6s

Yeah, no worries at all, we'll do a couple of circuits, get our eyes in on these wires and your boundaries, and then you'll know where we're going to sit down. Search received, thanks out
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13:59:53
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Ops out

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 13:56:50–13:56:53 · 0:03 of audio

5310690
13:56:50
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Operations from our...

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 13:54:19–13:54:22 · 0:03 of audio

5310690
13:54:19
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Operations from Alpha.

118 R1 INC 02 TG 1123 · CFS
Thu 29 Oct 2026, 13:52:28–13:53:42 · 0:38 of audio

Burnwell confirmed test burn commencement; Jacob acknowledged and noted hose lay progress; Oslo and Tanner discussed fire behaviour observation.

5310679
13:52:28
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IC operations.
5310659
13:52:33
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I see receiving, send.
5310679
13:52:38
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Yeah, just about to start the test, Burnwell.
5310659
13:52:43
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Yeah, copy that, mate. I'm just getting my way towards the end of that hose lay off Rocky Hill Truck. Anything, over?
5310679
13:53:11
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Yeah, for a sec, just for your information, Jacob, just about to commence test burn.
5310690
13:53:18
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Yeah, roger, operations, I'll let you know once hoad blaze charge and trucks are in place over
5310679
13:53:25
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Yeah, roger, you should have a good view from Oslo of fire behaviour over here and vice versa.
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13:53:37
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Yeah, roger, Tanner, I'm just heading down to go and see Will as well, nothing further.